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Honda's City Adventure scooter headed for production
We have caught the new adventure of Wing House scooters being tested on the notorious cobblestones of the capital . After seeing him in the concept version last EICMA in Milan, the project City Adventure - introducing a new concept of mobility, somewhere between an urban commuter and an adventurous bike - " takes to the streets " for development in view of of montagio chain. We are able to provide them a preview thanks to our exclusive images.
KTM's big adventure line getting crowded
KTM’s Owners Manual website, offered a peak at it with a heading for a “1050 Adventure EU (2015)” Word is that it'd be a rebored version of the KTM's 999cc motor from the discontinued 990 Adventure models.
It'd be offered as a more budget machine entry point to get into the big adventure bike market. That's not too bad an idea. Will it get produced and come to Canada... that's the question.
2015 BMW S1000XR - Adventurer Tourer
More details from the CycleWorld post HERE.
MV Agusta confirms 800cc triple "Rivale"
Giovanni Castiglioni has confirmed that MVAgusta will be making a new three-cylinder machine 800cc machine called the Rivale. Styling is along the lines of a Ducati Hypermotard.
When speaking to the folks at www.moto.it Castiglioni indicated that the bike would be 'a new concept' with elements of supermoto and enduro. Perhaps the best part is that it'll be powered by an 800cc version of the firm's triple.
Rumor is that the bike will appear as a concept at the EICMA show in Milan in the fall. Watch for it!
Hopefully Motovan (Canadian distributor for MV Agusta) will get to bring them to Canada when they are released!
My Italian isn't very good but there's some great simulated pictures of what it might look like. Check it out HERE:
Rumor - Ducati 848 Hypermotard
A liquid cooled engine with upwards of 140HP if you consider the current 848 EVO design. Dry weight of the EVO is 370lbs so the combination of a light weight hypermotard bike and horsepower numbers close to the top of the line 848 and there's no doubt Ducati will have a hot seller.
Ducati IPO in the works?
If the IPO were to happen, it's said that early 2012 would be the target time frame.
It won't be Ducati's first experiment as a publically offered company - Ducati was a public company in 1999 but it ended up being short lived. Investindustrial bought out previous owner in 2006. A return to profitability of Ducati in 2008 seemed closely timed with a return to Italian ownership.
Ducati has been on a bit of a positive trend the past few years - will taking the company public see a continuation or acceleration of that upward trend?
Suzuki's New "Adventure" VStrom
They show a stylized outline of some of the new bike. They're calling it a Middle Class bike that's ready for adventure bike so will they keep the 650c displacement? bump it up to match some of their main competition at 800cc? It's not clear at this point.
Honda Canada rumors
It would make sense to try to grab some of the 250 market share. 250cc makes a good entry level bike size that's highway capable. Not only does this size appeal to the budget conscious new rider but the frugal commuter type looking for something cheap to insure that gets great fuel economy.
Maybe it'll look something like this? VFR1200 inspired headlight with CBR1000RR inspired bodywork. One can hope.
New Honda 800cc model
2011 Kawasaki Z1000S leaked
Basically what it's a 2010 Kawasaki Z1000 with a fairing. Hopefully it comes to Canada! We'll let you know when we hear more.
That means a litre bike with a bias towards flexible power delivery rather than top end track performance, more comfy ergo's, and a fairing. Being based on the Z1000 it will hopefully mean a price tag that comes with a few hundred dollars of the Z at $13,199.
The fairing will add some weather protection and make it a little more comfortable as a tourer and highway bike. The windscreen is said to offer manual three-position adjustment with over 50 cm of range.
The Z1000 makes 136bhp and 81lb/ft of torque from a 1,043cc inline-four which sits in a cast aluminum frame featuring a horizontal rear shock. 480lbs (wet).
Apparently photo's are embargoed from publishing until October 5th but this looks pretty real to me.
New Triumph "Tiger" 800 - shown by CARB
While not officially announced, if you've been watching our site you know they've 'leaked' some video's
Word is that the engines are based on the 675 cc triple motor that have been boosted to 800 cc by increasing the stroke.
I best start saving up now!
Erik Buell - new street model coming soon?
Catch the latest "official" video here:
Is Buell returning with a street bike?
If Internet rumor and a recently surfaced video are to believed, he may be readier than you might think.
A video showing a Buell 11900RR race bike fitted with indicators and cooling fan have been fueling rumors of a return of Erik Buell! I hope it happens!
Check out the video HERE.
Ducati Comments on Haden Rumors
We would like to say that the recent news which has appeared on the US website Cycle World and other websites has been misreported and must be attributed to the many rumors circulating lately.
Whether and when an agreement is reached, official press releases will be issued.
Ducati Vyper - Spy Photo
Purists will argue that it's a departure from the core beliefs of Ducati which is focused on building performance motorcycles. Anything with a 240 profile rear tire isn't a performance bike - right. If you want to be successful and gain market share sometimes you need to give people what they want, not force what you think they want upon them. Drawing similarities in the automotive world, look at Porsche and their Cayenne SUV. People say it goes against everything "Porsche" stands for. It's Porsche's biggest seller now and they make lots of money selling it. Money that can be put back into R&D and building faster and better cars. Something I'm sure Porsche sportscar fans do like.
I'm not necessarily going to buy a muscle bike from Ducati but if they build it, I hope they sell a ton of them and it helps finance bikes that I am interested in buying. I don't see it as a negative. I see it as a big positive!
I found what is reportedly a statement by Ducati which seems to suggest that something big is on the way from Ducati.
Ducati's statement reads:
As many you may have noticed, there has been quite a bit of activity in the past few weeks surrounding a supposed new Ducati model. I wanted to take this opportunity and send you a note saying indeed we do have a surprise in store for this year's EICMA show. Our R&D department is working around the clock to complete development of this radical new motorcycle, for which time to complete final design and engineering elements will surely come down to the wire.
I'm sending this letter today in order to inform you of our communication plan. Since many details of the bike (big and small) are still being sorted out; I have elected not to forward information or photography until the rolling prototypes come close to resembling what the final product will look like.
Stay tuned for further information from the Ducati Press Department; and I can assure you the final bike will impress all with the design, performance and technology everyone has come to expect from Ducati.
Photo via MotoSprint.it
Ural puts an end to some Internet rumors
Now the official clarification, from the horse's mouth:
1. PK IMZ has tax debt. As of November 1, 2009 the amount was 10.5 mln rubles ($350K). This debt accumulated at the end of 2008-beginning of 2009, during the peak of the crisis when the factory stopped building bikes due to the drop in demand.
2. As of today, January 20, 2010 PK IMZ tax debt is 7.9 mln rubles ($280K). IMZ is negotiating with the regional government authorities on obtaining a payment plan for this remaining amount. The reason and purpose for negotiations is to keep the lined up reserve $$ for more useful projects including R&D rather than paying out the tax debt at once.
3. Today, January 20, the newly elected Governor of Sverdlovsk region is paying a visit to the factory and during the meeting with factory management they will be discussing this question. Another issue that will be discussed with the Governor - is providing the factory with a way to import foreign components under temporary importation terms. This would allow the factory not having to pay enormous import duties and taxes for goods that upon assembly of motorcycles immediately get exported. Unfortunately, current customs regulation is not manufacturer friendly (duty runs up to 15-20% on imported components, non-refundable) which forces IMZ management to look at and consider options of moving the assembly outside of Russia.
In conclusion - the factory is working and very busy, motorcycles are being built every day to catch up with the demand that's again running ahead of supply. If everything continues as well, this year we plan to get back to the production level of CY 2008.
2010 Ducati lineup to be shown at EICMA in Milan
It's said to be a 1200cc model and hopefully will allow the Italian company to compete with the likes of BMW and their 1200GS.
The email we received from Ducati suggests there 'might' be something else in the works too though...
"For 2010 Ducati will have a significant amount of new products, including several that have NOT been in the rumor mill as of late."
What could it be! We'll have to wait until 5.00 pm on Monday, 9th November. Ohhh, the suspense!
Fischer coming to Canada
The MRX uses a fuel injected Hyosung 90° 650cc v-twin engine so that does seem to make National Motorsports a natural company to partner with to bring the bike to Canada.
The MRX will probably make it's Canadian debut at the Toronto Motorcycle show this December 11th, 2009. The MSRP is expected to be between $10,000-$11,000 Canadian.
Why buy a MRX for $10-11 grand when you can get an SV650S for about $9,300? Well, the MRX comes with much higher spec components such as:
- 43 mm inverted front suspension, inverted telescopic with compression and rebound adjustment
- Rear suspension is Ohlins single shock with adjustable ride height, compression damping, and spring preload
- Front brake is a dual semi-floating 310mm disc, Brembo master cylinder, Goodridge steel brake lines
It makes 80 horsepower at the crank @ 9,400 RPM and produces 52 ft/lbs of Torque @ 7500 RPM
For more details on Fischer check out their website HERE.
Kawasaki - not moving production to Thailand
CMG Online are now reporting that they've heard from Kawasaki Canada whom are saying that these reports are false.
Source: CMG Online
Honda EVO 6 Concept - build it and they will come?
Ducati scooter rumor
Interesting! That would easily make it the largest displacement and powerful scooter available in North America that we're aware of. It does make a bit of sense that Ducati would use this engine because it's already there and available and doesn't require any development. No doubt it would require some revamping and retuning but that would be entirely cheaper than developing a new scooter specific engine.
Oberan Bezzi Design has come out with a high quality rendering of their thoughts on what the Ducati Scooter could look like. Is it just Internet hype to keep Ducati in the news, or is it really something that Ducati is working on?
Image courtesy Oberdan Bezzi Design
Ducati decides not to build Vyper Cruiser Concept
Ducati VP of Marketing, Diego Sgorbati, has confirmed that Ducati has no intentions of making a cruiser motorcycle just yet. It's something they're monitoring and considering apparently. Considering is a long way from building though and so that's where it stands at the moment.
It was rumored that Ducati's version of a modern, sporty cruiser was going to be displayed at the EICMA bike show in November.
There's a lot of rumor in this rumor post!
Not even this tricolore mock up conceived by the talented folks at Bar-Design was enough to convince Ducati that it should be built.
Image courtesy of Bar-Design
Rumor - Ducati Scooter for 2010?
The scooter news comes by way of Warren Lee, CEO of Australian Ducati importer NF Importers in an interview with the Courier Mail, an Australian newspaper.
During an interview with the newspaper Lee said “Ducati is looking at a scooter, but a high-performance model, not a 50cc price driven thing. It’s on the backburner at the moment. Maybe after 2010. It’s just simmering at the moment.”
Maybe it'll look something like a cross between an 1198 and a scooter such as in this image?
Nice photoshop - I like the little 48 logo. Lee says it won't be a 50cc scooter so it won't be quite like this one if the rumor does prove true.
Image via TwoWheelsBlog
2010 Honda ST1200 - rumor and patent photos
Peugeot HYmotion 3 to see production in 2010
The HYmotion has electric motors powering each of the two front wheels and a 125cc internal combustion engine powering the rear. In the Piaggio MP3 Hybrid only the rear wheel is powered by both the electric motor and gas-powered engine.
Reports indicate the HYmotion should offer fuel economy in the 117 miles per gallon range. That's not quite as good as the 141 mpg estimate of the Piaggio MP3 Hybrid but the HYmotion incorporates a roof! So it will provide a lot more protection from the elements than any scooter currently on the market.
The protection that the roof offers from the elements might be just the thing that converts a lot of those people sitting on the fence about a making a two-wheeled purchase because let's face it, it does take some forethought and dedication to ride in inclement weather.
It's uncertain whether this model will make it to Canada or even the US, or what it will cost (in Europe) but we'll let you know as soon as we find out more.
Rumor - Yamaha turbo diesel motorcycle
In the patent drawings it appears that the intercooler is located above the engine or could be concealed in the frame; the turbocharger itself is mounted adjacent to the cylinder head. This placement provides some protection for these sensitive components.
If it gets the green light, Yamaha would be the only major manufacturer producing a diesel motorcycle.
More diesel related posts here.
More rumor related posts here.
2010 Honda VFR 1200 exposed!
New Honda VFR - Spring 2010
Takagi said: “We really believe we can develop a new era starting with this V4-powered machine. It is just the beginning and represents a new breed of Honda which will define Honda’s own taste and styling.
“This bike will be the perfect road machine that Honda customers have called for. It will be an epoch-making machine and more bikes from the V4 platform are possible.
“We know people think this bike is going to be a replacement for the VFR800 and the Blackbird but we do not see this bike as a replacement for anything. We see it as an all-new breed of machine, something very special.”
Takagi would not reveal the price, but did confirm when it will be available. He said: “The finished V4-powered machine will be seen in autumn 2009. The bike will be on sale in spring 2010.
"The bike is different to the concept shown for the first time at Milan in 2009 but the link between them is very clear to see.”
And for some pure speculation; Vanjey Design Studio has come up with their idea of how the 2010 VFR might look. Some clear influences from the V4 sports bike concept at the Cologne Motorcycle Show and the current CBR 1000RR are visible.
There's still more rumor that the bike will feature a 1200cc engine to take on some of the bigger competition. That's an exciting prospect but some current VFR fans may be saddened by the larger displacement because they think the 800cc displacement offers the right blend of performance and size. You can't please everybody, and the displacement is purely rumor so we'll just have to watch this one as it continues to evolve.
* Image courtesy Vanjey Design.
Yamaha to build Honda DN-01 automatic rival?
In the report on solomoto they indicate that three Yamaha engineers from the Janapese factory have patented a new motorcycle design that's similar to the DN-01. The engine for the Yamaha "crossover bike" will come from Yamaha's big T-Max scooter.
Patent drawings registered early in June seem to suggest that Yamaha is working on some sort of an automatic transmission similar to that on the DN-01.
Pure Internet speculation!
Via CMG Online.
Crazy Internet rumor drives up Harley Davidson stock
Shares of Harley-Davidson initially rose 6.3% but settled to a 4.2% gain, or $2.51, to $62.63 by noon trading.
Chances are quite slim that Honda would follow through with a purchase of Harley Davidson because of regulatory hurdles. It's reported that if Honda and Harley combined, the union would control 65% of the U.S. motorcycle market. The next leading competitor, would be Yamaha at a distant 16%.
The US Federal Trade Commission would almost certainly put the kibosh on that deal, seeing as its has squashed other, more mundane mergers in the past.
Analysts have been quoted as saying it doesn't seem a great fit - Harley the American icon of motorcycles and a large Japanese corporation. Brilliant deduction!
Update - BMW scooter mock-up surfaces
It's still just a mock-up at this point and strictly Internet rumor as to whether it'll be built but it's unlikely that BMW will ignore sales trends. Maxi-scooters are growing in popularity so a BMW model to fill the gap in their offerings doesn't seem far fetched.
While I'm a little more partial to the K1300S or a F800GS the practicality of a vehicle like this can't be ignored. To BMW I'd say - "Build it and they will come."
Photo from Oberdam Bezzi Design.
BMW maxi-scooter in the works?
The new scooter will be throughly BMW'esque, some hint it may even feature paralever suspension. Hmmm, that would surely give a pretty hefty price tag. I'd be surprised to see them use this system.
It's said that BMW will use the Rotax v-twins with 500cc, 650cc, and the big one - the 800cc. Power will range from a sedate 33hp all the way up to 800cc. They're liquid-cooled, fuel-injected four-strokes that make use of counter-rotating crankshafts to reduce vibrations. Transmissions would almost certainly be continuously variable.
Reworking the engines so that they'll work for a scooter configuration on the swingarm will take considerable effort.
There doesn't seem to be any pictures to show at this point but we'll keep looking.
2010 Triumph Daytona rumors
We're not one to quote Paris Hilton, but this thing is hot!
That passenger seat doesn't look very comfortable, but hey, you won't be riding on the back now will you?
Clearly if Triumph were thinking of producing such a bike they'd have to make some changes. Namely, those impossibly small headlights. Performance/luxury automotive companies such as Porsche and Audi are using similar styled lights but (correct me if I'm wrong - or comment below) they're just used as daytime running lights and/or turn signals on those models. Still, even if they did have to update the lights it'd still look great.
*If you know the official source of the photos let us know. They do have a watermark but we can't read it. Plus, they may have been added later.
Rumor - Kawasaki back in MotoGP for 2009
Apparently, Kawasaki is under contract to compete in the MotoGP series until the end of 2011 but Dorna is willing to let them out of the contract for 2010 and 2011 but race in 2009 they must!
Further rumor indicates that Kawasaki is indicating they've only got engines built for 25% of the championship and don't want to develop the rest. Dorna CEO, Carmelo Ezpeleta, has started working on a solution for that problem too - he's supposedly found an engineering facility in France willing to take on the work from Kawasaki, build the engines, and continue development of the ZX-RR.
The catch with that is that Kawasaki would have to accept the conditions and agree to turn the bikes over to the French firm. Oh my, how the plot thickens!
New Ducati Multistrada spotted
Well, to add to the rumor, the folks at Motociclismo Spain have come up with a spy shot of the new Multistrada. It's difficult to tell the extent of the redesign because the picture is from the back and the angle obscures almost all of the details! Darn!
The bike is apparently well into development and some dealers have already been shown the sporty new model. It will be a complete replacement of the old model and will reportedly feature the sweet 1098 engine. Insiders say it also features the Ducati DTC traction control system.
The pictures do show a road biased, wide rear sport tire and a big single sided swingarm.
You'll have to wait awhile to see the official photo's (unless they leak before hand). It's said the bike will be shown at the Milan Motorcycle show in November!
Honda Fury - Not so electric
It appears to be what is a fairly conventional chopper style motorcycle. It's rumored that the Honda Fury will be officially unveiled at the New York round of the International Motorcycle Show on January 16th.
It'll likely feature a hidden underseat radiator, a hidden rear shock, and a fuel injected v-twin engine somewhere in the neighborhood of 1300cc.
Kawasaki to withdraw from MotoGP
It's a sign of the times though, and just shortly after Honda announced it's withdrawal from F1, and Suzuki and Subaru leaving the World Rally Championship. It seems that the global economic crisis is taking a heavy toll on motorsports of every kind. Motorcycle sports, it would appear, aren't immune to shrinking budgets.
Spanish Motorcycle magazine, Motorciclismo.es is reporting that it's official, and that Kawasaki is going to leave MotoGP. Tuttosport, another motorcycle magazine has also said that Kawasaki has already decided to leave MotoGP as well.
So, that's a few sources who've been seemingly well informed in the past saying it'll happen very soon. Official word may come as soon as this Thursday.
CycleNews has apparently spoken with John Hopkins who (according to them) confirmed reports that Kawasaki may be on the verge of pulling out of the 2009 MotoGP World Championship, though he hadn't heard anything official.
"I heard it’s up in the air, but I haven’t heard anything confirmed yet,” Hopkins said from his home in Rancho Santa Fe, California, today. “I got some calls from the team manager [Michael Bartholemy] and he said that everything could be up in the air as to whether they run it or not, but nothing has been confirmed. I don’t know what it would do to me. I’m really not sure. I’ve been talking to my managers and seeing what the plan is and they’ve been on the phone to Japan trying to figure it out as well. Right now I’m still contracted to them so I’m not sure what the plan is.”"
There's quite of bit of contradicting information out there but many signs are indicating that this may happen.
Bill 117 has "reportedly" been squashed
We've received news that Bill 117 has been squashed. Reports are that the folks at Motorcycle Mojo have been contacted by Federal Member of Parliament, David Sweet MP with the news. We haven't seen anything official posted yet though so keep signing petitions if you're so inclined.
It was indicated that he has had discussions with a Government Member of the Ontario Provincial Legislature and was advised that Bill 117 is dead following the prorogation of the last session at Queens Park.
Bill 117 would have banned motorcycle passengers under 14 years old in Ontario. There has been a huge outcry from motorcyclists against this Bill with numerous petitions and campaigns against it.
It would appear that if this is true that all the efforts have been successful!
Ducati to produce new Multistrada
It's said that Ducati announced to select dealers at the Milan Show last month that they had big plans for the multi-purpose Multi-Strada.
The new bike is reportedly more than just some cosmetics though, it's said it'll be a redesign with a new engine too. Rumors suggest that it'll get a 1098 or 1198 engine, and take fairing and headlight styling cues from the new 1198.
photo courtesty of visordown. The picture is clearly a Photoshop piece of fiction but may give hope to some who may want a bike that performs like the Multi-Strada does now but with a little less of the "ugly-duckling" styling.
This redesign, if true, could put the Multi-Strada on the shopping list for a lot of people who may not have considered it before because of the unorthodox styling.
2010 Honda Fury - Rumor?
There's some Internet rumors going around that Honda hosted an online US dealer event this past Monday and confirmed a new model - the Honda "Fury."
It's reportedly a 1300cc raked chopper that will be introduced to the US market next spring as an early '10 model.
Word is that Dealers will receive more information later in December. The pictures sent to dealers had the bottom-half of the bike intentionally blurred. Folks are speculating what this means of course and most of the buzz is that that the bike might be a hybrid with a gas and electric motor.
If they do produce an electric/gas hybrid system how long will it be before Honda puts the technology into their Goldwing? It might be a useful addition to that platform.
Volkswagen motorcycle engineered by KTM
The two companies have a history of successful collaboration. KTM had some help from the engineers at VW when they wanted to build a track based car (the X-Bow). The X-Bow, was developed with help from VW’s engineers, uses the 2.0-litre turbo from the Audi TT.
Don't hold your breath waiting to pick up one of these at your local VW dealership. Chances are it'll be a long time coming, if it even does come.
Clearly these two companies have a history of working together though so it doesn't seem like it would be too much of a stretch that the two could work together to produce a motorcycle. With the dealership network VW has it could make KTM more of a household name if plans proceed. It could be a big move for KTM and for VW.
From the preview this bike seems to offer styling that has been popular in the UK for several years now - a naked/streetfighter look. We're seeing more of this type of styling trickle into the Canadian market too. Suzuki is coming out with the Gladius, Kawasaki is bringing the ER-6N. Both these bikes are 650cc models.
We've seen no details on the displacement of the VW but if they're working with KTM it might make sense to pluck an existing engine out of the KTM product bin. That would suggest that a 690cc engine could be used. That would give it a bit of a size advantage over some of it's near competition but it's a big single rather than a twin that the Suzuki and Kawasaki use. This is all speculation of course!
Photo from Auto Express.
Ducati rumors abound for 2009
A company insider has reportedly revealed that Ducati will be upping the 1098’s capacity to 1198cc for 2009. To match the 1200cc World Superbike v-twin capacity limit, the Ducati 1098R already displaces 1198cc, so it is expected that a version of that same engine will be used in the 2009 Ducati 1198, but in a lower state of tune and using less exotic parts.
Reports are that the 1198 will have 170bhp. The base 1198 receives a $500 USD price bump (to $16,495 in the US), the 1198S remains at $20,995 (US). The 1198 will be lighter than the outgoing 1098 and may receive a facelift.
The $500 USD price increase will likely be carried over to most bikes in Ducati's range, including the 848, which receives no other significant changes.
It is also said to expect two versions of the 2009 Ducati Monster 1100, the regular 1100 and an S with Öhlins suspension. There's also an all-new model that, “is a cross between a Tuono, Brutale and fits between Monster and Hypermotard.” It will be powered by the outgoing water-cooled 1099cc engine from the 1098, but with a smaller airbox that means less power and shotgun-style dual exhausts mounted on one side.
It looks like 2009 will be another very exciting year for the Italian motorcycle maker!
Buell Firebolt to rumored to be featured in Transformers 2
A leaked call sheet for the upcoming Transformers 2 movie indicates that there is a going to be a Buell Firebolt that transforms into a female robot, Arcee.
I'm no expert but from what I can tell Arcee is a character from the original cartoon series and this character achieved some popularity.
She was even supposed to be in the first movie but was dropped because there wasn't enough time to explain why there would be females in a robotic race. Guess that means it'll be explained in this one.
Some pictures have leaked too. I wonder if Buell will come out with a new special edition paint scheme.
MV Agusta denies Harley-Davidson buyout in works
Castiglioni told MCN that "there are no negotiations in progress with Harley-Davidson" following reports in Italian newspaper Il Messaggero that a buyout was imminent.
Rumors about potential financial partners, or new owners have been rampant lately and MV Agusta have been said to be in talks with Indian car makers Tata and Mahindra. Nothing has been confirmed so far though.
The largest stake in the firm is owned by investment firm GEVI SpA, while Castiglioni retains around 20 percent of the firm. Last year the firm sold the Husqvarna subsidiary to BMW, but MV Agusta is now believed to be actively looking for a major new investor to ensure its security in the future.
Harley-Davidson in advanced talks to purchase MV Agusta
The daily Messaggero (an Italian newspaper) has reported, without citing any sources, that U.S. motorbike manufacturer Harley-Davidson is in advanced talks to buy Italy's MV Agusta.
Details according to Messaggero:
The deal would see Harley-Davidson (nyse: HOG - news - people ) buy out most of the debt of MV Agusta, currently at around 200 million euros -- 130 million euros held by banks and 70 million euros held by suppliers.
The operation would envisage a write off of part of the debt.
Harley-Davidson wants to write off about 35 percent of the debt but the banks and suppliers want that amount reduced to at least 30 percent.
Harley-Davidson could buy 80-85 percent of MV Agusta's capital, leaving businessman Claudio Castiglioni with 15-20 percent.
Castiglioni currently owns 29.6 percent of MV Agusta while 65.4 percent is owned by finance company Gevi.